#underage is sick! ☠


demetcatfighter

2025-10-02 15:09

Wow. What a beautiful groupthink you ladies have gotten into. Congrats. Really, underage is bad? Who would have thought. You have really found a way to speak truth.

However, while you ride on your insanely high horse, have you stopped to consider why there is no ACTUAL child porn on this site? Like, ever? No, of course you didn't. Bashing is so much better than thinking for you internet warriors. But I will tell you anyway: it's because it is against the site's acceptable use policy to post pics of kids. I only ever found one over many years, reported it, and it was removed within hours. I know this is against your established worldview, and internet warriors never change their minds because that would be too reasonable, but try to get it through your heads: the "underage" tag on this site is a trigger warning. It's a warning label. And that trigger warning is enabled for you already, unless you went and disabled is.

Oh and in case you now have the urge to go "but I see child pics all the time here", then I ask you: why did you not report it? Are you part of the problem or the solution, dear?

But... by all means, continue with your discussion. It might be the most productive moment of your day.


Maia Sarakof (deleted member)

2025-10-09 08:37

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On top of what everyone has said already, a quick scroll through the 'Active Federations' tab shows... gee willickers. An image of an actual child used as a federation image. Which already disproves your point... because you can't report federations. I also don't recall much in terms of deletion of AI-generated child images because those are 'technically' not against the rules, reporting those is a coin toss to see what mood the admin in question is on that day.

Also, LMAO, using 'groupthink' and 'internet warrior' in 2025 is... a choice. Once you stop huffing your own farts, along with whatever copium you need to justify that written or AI generated CSAM is not as bad and repugnant as real life material, then maybe wrap your head around the fact that the 'rule' only exists in order to have a bare minimum barrier to avoid litigation.

Oh and on the subject of 'Underage is a trigger warning, hum hum, look at me, I am so smart'... Honey. Sweetie. Pookie. Hate to break it to you, but that 'trigger warning' was non-functional for at least 3, maybe more years and it took me calling it out in this thread (https://venus.chatfighters.com/forums/Request_to_remove_the_underage_tag_and_make_underage_against_site_rules) for it to be 'fixed'

But by all means, enjoy yourself. after all your take is so completely dogshit and devoid of substance that I can only assume you to have a humiliation kink, and that one is not one I'll kinkshame, you do you, boo.


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-10-02 21:14

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Honestly, this only takes a few words to unravel. Acting like an intellectual but only really looking at it in the most narrow minded way possible while pretending to be better than everyone is more funny than anything.

You ever heard of written CP? Or does your definition of CP only relate to pics? Really you just look like you wanted to be different and edgy but didn't really think much about what you actually said. A lot of words doesn't always have meaning, sometimes it's just to try and sound smart. Kinda backfired...


Alicia Warlock (deleted member)

2025-10-02 18:35

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For someone talking about riding a high horse, you have quite the high and mighty attitude! How about you get off your high horse and ground yourself with us peasants you intellectual marvel? Just a pot calling the kettle black! But I don't blame you, I'm certain posting this was the most productive moment of your day.

A site that hosts stories that contain topics such as graphical depictions of sex and violence is no place for stories that place underage, child-like characters within the very same scenarios. The tag isn't a warning, it's a call that helps people of such degenerate tastes to gather around and whatever limits this site poses to them? Now that they're connected, they can get past those limits on other platforms. Then again, acknowledging these would go against your established world view and an internet warrior like you never change their minds because that would be too reasonable. Otherwise you won't need any more than 2 braincells to see the issues we're pointing out.

But hey, what do I know? I'm not as intellectual as you are! I won't even pose the rhetorical question you did, because you most certainly are part of the problem.


Rayz Sarakof (deleted member)

2025-10-02 17:15

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Bit ironic you're talking about 'Being on an insanely high horse'...considering that little monologue you seem to believe is so right.

No fucking shit Child Porn is wrong. The problem with the underage tag even existing in the first place is it allows people who think alike to get together and fetishise over it in the first place. It's not a warning for normal people, it's a calling card for people who want to share it with like-minded individuals. It's almost like a harbour for people like that. People who should never be allowed to be on here in the first place.

Try to get that in your head before your 2 brain cells decide to click together and write something like this again.


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-10-02 16:03

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Your position is welcome to discuss, thank you for using a moment of your super productive day to discuss with internet warriors. But if the problem is happening on the Internet, it's hard to fight in real life, isn't it?
And if the site accepts the hashtag underage, then don't people feel comfortable exploring the topic? Or do you mean that the site is so cool that it set a trap to catch pedophiles? Viewpoints are always welcome, preferably politely and respecting the laws of real life. The Internet cannot be a land without law.


Borealis (deleted member)

2025-10-01 03:30

FFS. I have been away for a long while, and came on to do a long overdue reply. Instead I'm here.

Here's the difference between tags like "Death" and the "Underage" one: the people they attract.

Obviously murder/extreme violence/gore is illegal in real life and not illegal in an RP setting. The same can be said for underage. There is nothing illegal about the rules of the site because it keeps it, ostensibly, to a "fantasy only" setting and does not allow real pictures. However, by allowing such a tag to exist, the site is encouraging a breeding ground for those who would share real pics. They are not (usually) dumb enough to do it on site in a profile. But by allowing that tag to exist, it provides a space for those people to find each other, talk, and share pictures or sites with each other elsewhere.

That is the problem I have with it. That is why that particular tag is so problematic, and needs to go away immediately.


Maia Sarakof (deleted member)

2025-10-09 08:46

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Another excellent point that I have not seen being said in as much clarity yet, yeah. Oh, sure, real-life CSAM is against the site rules, but people with that tag are hardly gonna report each other now, will they?


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-30 18:43

Bro got disliked and had to like his own comment 🀣


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-30 17:45

The site moderators are surely into this sick stuff. That really sucks.


PicFighter Roulette

2025-09-29 17:14

Gotta love how #Underage gets everybody's panties in a bunch on moral and legal grounds, yet a number of other tags are seemingly fine (i.e. Death (do you advocate for murder?), or Non-consent/Rape (for instance in fights where you get to do that to the loser?)). Some of the people complaining about it actually have those tags in their profiles even right now.

Please get off your double-standards high-horse.

If you have to campaign for it, then at least be morally consistent and include ALL of the items that would be immoral (who determines morality anyway?) and/or illegal (i.e. Death/Murder, Extreme Violence, Rape, Non-consent, Bodily harm, etc.) in REAL LIFE (which this isn't - a distinction lost on a number of people seemingly ...).

This may not be a popular opinion in this thread, but it is the truth.

#SelectiveMorality


Strongarm

2025-10-10 07:43

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Just say you like kids weirdbro


Cammy White SF

2025-10-01 19:36

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We all can have a very long discussion about pro's, con's, double standards, high horses and so forth. The only thing i can really say about this is how it makes me feel.. Personally i don't want to be anywhere remotely near this subject. Double standard, or not. And the fact alone that this tag exists, makes me uncomfortable using this site. Every time i am confronted by the existance of this tag, it makes me question being a part of this site... Which is a pity because other than this i really love this place..


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-10-02 02:55

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That's what I think as well Cammy. I like this place very much. I have a lot of friends and fun here. But someday I was having an erotic match, in a open room, when a profile of a lil girl show up in the room. I end the match immediately and get very upset. Why CF don't exclude this # ?


Matthias999

2025-09-30 18:02

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I can't speak for anyone else, but my thoughts on the subject are as follows...

While I can understand your argument regarding selective morality and "My fucked up fantasies are ok, but yours aren't...", the reality is that fantasies of violence, even extreme violence, has been largely adopted as acceptable by most modern societies. Violence and gore have been marketed to us as entertainment for centuries, from modern movies and video games to the Roman gladiators. Society, as a whole, determines what is socially acceptable and society as a whole has determined fantasy about violence, even gratuitous, is socially acceptable and not morally wrong. Some in the minority would argue against that, that such fantasies aren't ok, but they do not overrule the determination of society as a whole.

Regarding rape, that's a more complex issue and you have to look at the RP itself. Typically, what I generally see in scenes that end with seemingly unwilling sexual encounters is that "stakes" are agreed to at the beginning of the match, and the winner gets to have their way with the loser. In that case, both characters have consented to intercourse before the match even begins and have an understanding of what happens when they win or lose. Or, also very commonly, the scene is written in such a way that attraction and sexual tension builds between both parties. At the end, when one is defeated and the other goes to claim their prize, consent is implied by the loser. They WANT the sexual encounter by the end of the scene. Now, other setups I think are a lot more morally suspect, say for instance stalker follows a woman home and rapes her while she's pleading for him to stop, but that's not typical of what I see in most scenes. And usually, limits are talked about before the scene even begins. Where underage disgusts me, in this sense, is that one or both parties is a child, and therefore unable to make an intelligent decision on whether to consent or not.

Another factor in my feelings on this matter is that I myself endured a great deal of physical, mental, and emotional abuse when I was a child and have a loved one that was the victim of sexual assault as child, so there are few things that boil my blood quicker than child abuse.


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-29 19:59

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Take a second to realise what you're actually saying here.

If you write about death, you aren't necessarily gonna go out and kill someone, are you? Will there be sick fucks who will? Obviously, but that's a small number compared to those who won't, and chances are they'd probably do it whether they write about it or not.

If you write a piece on non con, are you gonna go out and rape someone? Again, largely no, but like before there are sick fucks who would regardless of whether they write about it or not.

Now, here's the big kicker, what reason would anyone have to write something fetishising children other than getting enjoyment out of it? Can you give me a legit reason for that? If you write about and enjoy the thought, whether you've actually committed the act or not, you're still fetishising children. In what circumstance is that EVER okay??

I really don't know if you want to actually defend it or if you're just trying to be different and edgy, but it isn't a good look either way. If someone has that desire, indulging in it is the LAST thing they should do. They shouldn't be here, they should be getting help. Did you think about any of that before you decided to accuse everyone of double standards?


Roleplay Roster

2025-09-30 16:06

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Your comment doesn't logically follow.

All "illegal" fetishes are assumed not to be reproduced in real life, and you didn't provide a reason so as to make the underage tag an exception.
All tags follow the same principle.


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-30 18:32

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Answer the questions I posed to you instead of deflecting then I'll address your points


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-30 17:44

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You are exploring images of children's for sexual proposal. Need something more explicit????



Alicia Warlock (deleted member)

2025-09-29 19:37

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They're not even remotely comparable! I'm not gonna pretend like writing about death or graphical sexual scenes or non-con scenes isn't weird or questionable, yeah a lot of us are weirdos, myself included! I even put warnings at the start of my stories, because I know partaking in extreme topics such as these is weird and not everyone's cup of tea!

But there's a MASSIVE difference between those and sexualization of children! I'm not a native English speaker so I'm struggling to find the words to convey what that difference is or describe why I find them incomparable but I'll put it this way...a lot of folks who write about death, extreme violence or non-con (among ADULT characters) do not advocate these stuff or agree with them or find them pleasing in real life! Some of them, like myself, even are self-aware enough to admit that these are questionable topics and make the distinction of not advocating for them in real life!
But even considering the idea of sexualizing children or straight up making an underage character, a child, then putting them in sexual or graphical situations, that's sickly! A mind that even wanders towards such ideas is sickly and it's disgusting. A person who enjoys gory action or depictions of extreme sexuality isn't the same as a person who is pleased and aroused by the imagery, sexualization and placement of kids in a graphic situation. There's a reason even goddamn murderers and criminals in prison kill/hurt/outcast pedophiles.

So you're not really calling anyone out for hypocrisy or having double standards or having selective morality, nor are you preaching "the truth"! You're just saying "well since x thing is bad, people aren't allowed to call out this worse thing" and undermining the deserved, negative attention that the underage tag is getting. Hell, the existence of the tags you say people should also call out actually makes for a better argument as to why the underage tag shouldn't exist and further justify people's criticism. A platform which explores ideas containing violence, death, rape, eroticism and such is no place for content where children are put in such situations.
It's like saying "oh if someone likes slasher movies or porn, they're not allowed to find CP disgusting or call it out" which is just nonsensical!


Roleplay Roster

2025-09-30 16:08

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No. Nobody in this thread has said that you can't call out CP, nor that it is okay. We're talking about a tag that pertains to roleplay. Everybody can complain, but complaining doesn't make something right or wrong.


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-30 18:42

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A tag that encourages written CP... Or does that not count to you?


Rayz Sarakof (deleted member)

2025-09-29 19:39

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Took the words right out of my mouth, Warlock πŸ‘πŸ»


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-29 18:18

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We are talking about exploring the image of children. We are talking about distributing, spreading, dissimulating photos and thoughts using children as a source of sexual desire. All other tags cited, such as extreme violence, rape and death are among adults. In my opinion, it does not compare. There is nothing of selective morality. Here in Brazil, pedophiles are killed in jail, to be aware of how serious this crime is in real life. The inmates themselves kill the pedophiles.


Matthias999

2025-09-30 17:34

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So, many may or may not be aware, but the use of pictures of children under the age of 18 is a violation of the site's Terms of Service and those using CF for that purpose are subject to having their account suspended or more likely permabanned if they are reported. I do get that most here don't bother to read the ToS and that position may seem counterintuitive due to the fact there is an Underage Keyword and the site seems in no hurry to change that.


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-30 17:47

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But if they allow #underage, then they're not worried about it.


Roleplay Roster

2025-09-30 16:09

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Simply put: murder is wrong, roleplay isn't.


PicFighter Roulette

2025-09-29 18:23

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My point was solely in relation to writing a story/fight in an RP.

FWIW - I don't think you should be using the images of anyone who is not 18 in RL. So on that account - I'm 100% in agreement with you.


KuroMeoww (deleted member)

2025-09-29 18:47

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You know perfectly well what the biggest problem is, it is true that there are federations of fights to the death and such things but apart from those there are many underage federations, so yes, it is a big problem here, Because of what we have talked about before, I think your position and mine is quite clear


KuroMeoww (deleted member)

2025-09-29 17:31

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I understand your point but I don't think what you're saying is right, talking about something like this and deleting it is important for a better community, this is something we should all agree on... I don't see the point in making a fuss.


Alicia Warlock (deleted member)

2025-09-29 16:56

I don't even understand the administration's insistence on keeping the underage tag! Only very few people use it, but those few people are enough to revolt other members and I know a bunch of people who refuse to buy memberships due to the site's support of the underage tag!
Like...from both a financial perspective AND more importantly, a moral perspective AND legal perspective, it's just wrong!! No ifs, no buts, so why the hell does it exist?


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-29 00:45

And that's sad as some here make it looks like a normal stuff.


Tommy044 (deleted member)

2025-09-29 00:18

It’s just disgusting, but shouldn’t this be obvious…


Zayndom (deleted member)

2025-09-29 00:14

Indeed this needs to be removed from the site as soon as possible. It’s disgusting that this is almost like a safe space for the kind of scum that enjoy anything like that


Dean the Destroyher

2025-09-29 00:14

I'm in to the idea of an over 18s only rule saves me vetting people


Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-28 02:29

Hello chatfighters and administrators.. I just don't donate to the site because you still accepting and incentivating the underage stuff. Thats illegal. That's sick. Please, it's time to block this. No more underage stuff in chatfighters!


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-28 07:14

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100% agreed, but they ain't budging on this. There's a whole list of reasons on another thread I commented on that was given but to me they make no real sense at all and ignore a lot of what makes underage so sick and potentially dangerous


KuroMeoww (deleted member)

2025-09-29 00:07

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I think if they eliminate everything underage, nothing bad would happen, things would just go better


Reina Gonzalez (deleted member)

2025-09-28 23:14

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I'm sure the vast majority of people here agree that underage is disease, it's dangerous, it's disgusting. So we must come together and look for ways to end it. What are the suggestions? How can we get to site administrators?



Just Jojo (deleted member)

2025-09-28 23:56

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That's a good question. How to reach the administrative of the site and make a protest?


Carmine Cradles (deleted member)

2025-09-29 09:23

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https://venus.chatfighters.com/forums/Request_to_remove_the_underage_tag_and_make_underage_against_site_rules

Been done before. Not that I'm saying people should stop trying, it's obviously something that needs addressing - and plenty of points I made didn't even so much as get a response - just putting it out there how hard of a fight it's gonna be